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What I Know For Sure

 

If I thought I would have it easy researching Geoge Washington Joyce, I was so wrong. Besides cleaning up the mess I made, I needed to find the Joyce family. I found that naming children after George Washington was a thing in the Joyce family. There are a million of them in North Carolina and Virginia. Seriously. So many of them moved on to Indiana, spreading their craziness around. What I know for certain is tiny compared to what I don't know. But I at least know something. I think. John Martin isn't that scary now(:

What I know:

-George Washington Joyce was born in North Carolina between the years of 1805 to 1807. This according to his age listed in census records 1850 and 1860.

-His wife is listed as Jane Sharp/Sharpe in the death certs and some marriage records of the kids.

-Have full list of his living children as per 1850 census. 

-He died before 1870 census. 

-This family started in North Carolina, not Virginia. They ended in Craig Township, Switzerland County, Indiana.

-These are my second line of Scots/Irish ancestors.

-The other George Joyce family is in the northern part of Indiana, while my George is in the southern area. (different migration path)

-They migrated to Indiana between 1832 (Agnes birth) and 1836 (George Washington Jr.'s birth, see?? Another one.)

What I don't know:

-Exact BMD (Oldest listed child is Robert born in 1827[sourced]. Marriage of George Joyce and Jane Sharp is at least a year before that. Maybe? Not found yet.) 

-Parents of George. I'm looking into a Samuel that many trees have him listed as father to George, but no documentation, not close to being able to say yea or nay yet.  

This is going to take a while as the water is still muddy but it's getting clearer. One good thing is that I did not feel confident enough to add this family to WikiTree. My Joyce ancestor, Agnes Joyce Hines [Joyce-475] is the only Joyce I've added there. No cleaning required.

I've found that I like searching at FamilySearch more than at Ancestry. Cleaner results, easier to pinpoint what you are looking for. Yeah, Ancestry has more, but for the basics FamilySearch is it. 

I ran into a great Joyce Family Research site. Lots of information. If you are researching the Joyce family, you should check it out. 

Alexander and Thomas Joyce Family Research 

I'd like to thank Foxymom who helped by fixing the FamilySearch tree. 

Trying To Clean Up A Mess I Made

 I am currently dealing with a mess of my own making. Many years ago, when I was too eager to fill empty boxes, I took another person's word as stone without doing the work. I am not adding so many people now, as I am filling in the blanks and dealing with the mistakes I have made. This one is a doozy, but I was unsure, even all that time ago, so I did not go any further than George Washington Joyce/Joice.  That part is good. The rest is a mess which I am cleaning up. 

The daughter of George W. Joyce is my second great-grandmother Agnes Joyce Hines. The Hines family is set in stone, resourced fully.  It's a great story too. But George W. Joyce is a different story. I was sent a marriage verifying that George Washington Joyce married a Jane Iden in Virginia by a family member years ago. I listed Jane Iden because I had that and the 1850 census which lists "Jane" as his wife. That is not enough, trust me.  In the 1860 census George is with his son Elijah, no Jane here.  I thought she must have died or gotten a divorce. Indiana was a Mid-West little Reno in those days, divorce was easy and fast, so it was a very real possibility.  I decided to come back to it later. Then life happened and it was many years before I got back to working seriously due to health. During my sick time I received an obit for Jane Iden listing three husbands, George W. Joice as husband number one.  Quite frankly I was not up to making those kinds of decisions but did. I took it and added it to the tree, even though it didn't seem quite right.  So here I am. Luckily, I am a firm believer that most mistakes can be fixed.  We will see. 

1850 Craig Township, Switzerland County, Indiana

Geo. Washington Joyce 44 (North Carolina), Jane 43 (North Carolina), Agnes 16 (North Carolina), Robert 15 (North Carolina), George W. 13 (Indiana), Peter 11 (Indiana), Hester 9, (Indiana) Effa 9 (Indiana), Elijah 6 (Indiana), Martha 4 (Indiana), Thomas J 4mos (Indiana).  

Side NOTE: Hester and Effa are twins.

Agnes, the daughter of George W. Joyce, married George Washington Hines. My ancestors.

1860 Craig Township, Switzerland County, Indiana-listed as a farmer. George Sr. is dwelling 232, and George Jr. is dwelling 238.

232-George W. Joice 55 (North Carolina), Elijah 16 (Indiana).

238-George W. Joice 23 (Indiana), Mary 20, (Indiana) Ephraim 4 (Indiana).

Oddly at dwelling 231 is a Richard Sharp 28 (North Carolina), Julia A. 42 (Indiana), Susan 13, William A. 5 (Indiana). 

Julia A. was Julia Ann Hines Sharp, sister to George W. Hines. Richard was born in North Carolina, son of Alexander Sharp and Malinda Cardwell. Susan Hines, another sister of George Hines, married Noah Sharp, again son of Alexander and Malinda.

1860 Vevay, Craig Township, Indiana

Robert Joice 27 (North Carolina), Nancy 18 (Indiana), Jane 50 (North Carolina).

Opppps. Found her. She was "in town" with her son and very young wife, probably helping out. 

1870 Vevay, Craig Township, Indiana-listed as a farmer

Joyce, Robert 40 (North Carolina), Nancy J 26, (Indiana) Josephine 10, (Indiana) Henry 6 (Indiana), James 4 (Indiana), Harrison 10 mos. (Indiana), Joyce, Hester 26 (Indiana), Marion 8 (Indiana), Jane 64 (North Carolina).

George Sr. died before 1870.

Robert Joyce marriage record to Catharine Higgins he lists his parents as Geo. W. Joyce and Jane Sharp.

Peter Joyce death cert lists his parents as George W. Joyce and Jane Sharp.

[sigh] I should have done this years ago. Let's see, everything lists her as Jane Sharp/Sharpe.  Switzerland County, Indiana was home to the Joyce and Sharp family from North Carolina. 

I know. Stupid and sloppy mistake. 

For the record, there is a George Washington Joyce/Joice in North Carolina that married a Jane Iden in Virginia. They did move to Indiana.  Still no excuse. Will update later on.

A Nice Potpourri This Week

 I finished getting all of Uncle Dons things in "the box" scanned and in google photos.  His hunting and new driver licenses, letters, birth, obit and other things are now in the file.  A couple of photos as well. The only thing I did not put in the album is the calendar that was on the wall when he died. My grandmother had written on it, and it just felt so personal to me that I could not share it. She spoke to me about her pain during that time and I just could not share that part.  His death in 1938 stayed raw and painful for her all of her life. I have shared this with you here. (https://photos.app.goo.gl/Y3qn7foH1hrYVtpe7) 

I've had several things going on this week. The first thing I did was to go through all of my paper files and replace the beat-up ones with fresh new folders. First time I've done this in 40 years. It took much longer than it should have since I would get stuck inside the folders, lost in the forgotten gems I had found. Now I have a new list of things to add to the program. I also have a clear idea of how I need to proceed, so there is a lot of scanning in my future. My goal is to get them into binders.  I want all of it reduced to a flash drive and binders. Guess I'll see how that goes. The unpleasant and surprising part is that there was a lot of dust involved. Aaaaachoo! Anyway, I have been studying how to this for some time. I did try to do it before and failed. I like this post by Paul Chiddicks on his blog The Chiddicks Family Tree on how he does it. There is also Genealogy Pants post on the same topic.  I love Carly Morgan's Family Tree Notebooks. I bought one page to try as I'm a PC and she's Apple. I could not get it to work. Broke my heart. She also has YouTubes and you should just watch them, well, just because they are great! If anyone reads this and has some wisdom to impart, I'd love to hear from you.

 Usually, I am at the sewing machine but lately I've been into something else. I saw a pattern for an afghan and suddenly wanted a wildflower afghan. Not very far into it yet but I don't have to buy anything. I have so much yarn from other projects that this is a 'freebie'. My favorite kind. (The pattern is called African Flower, a very simple pattern.)

John Martin Is A Pain

 There are days that are going so well that I feel the need to ruin it completely. You know, turn it into a dumpster fire. I just had one. I felt like today is the day! Today I will find out just who my John Martin is. I can do this. I already know what the free sites have, but today I have Ancestry! Success is moments away. Right?

My 3rd great-grandfather was John Martin. My Grandmother knew very little about him. All she could tell me was that his name was John and he fought in the Civil War. Her grandfather, Samuel Sanders Martin, never talked about his father. Grandma even thought maybe he died on a boat or something in the war. Now, I started this family thing in the very late 70's and yeah, I know, I'm old, but I have been beating my head against this wall for a long time.

So, John Martin married Mary Ann Allman (Polly) in Jackson County, Indiana on October 3, 1852. I have the marriage documentation for that. In the 1860 census, I found John and Mary Ann Martin in Sparksville, Washington County, Indiana. John 25, Polly Ann 20, Rebecca Elizabeth 3. My great-grandfather, Sam, was born on Valentines day of that year so they weren't counting infants. John would have been born about 1835 according to his age at that census. So I should look at naming patterns, right? I did try that. Then I remembered something very important. Mary Ann, Polly if you will, was the daughter of Samuel and Rebecca Allman. Yes, the first time I realized that I cried. It still brings tears to my eyes.

By the 1870 census the family is found in Brownstown, Indiana, with Reuben Cockerham. Reuben 27, Mary Ann 33, R.E. Martin 12, and SS Martin 10. Mary Ann Martin married Reuben B. Cockerham January 19, 1869, in Jackson County, Indiana. Rueben had fought in the war as well, leaving as a Corporal. His family was easy to find. 

Now the question is, did John die in the war? Divorce was a thing in Indiana during those years. So that would be a possibility as well. 

After going over military records for the past 40 or so years. [sigh], I did come to a conclusion in studying them. I go over it each time I try to find him, and I still believe I found the right one. Private John Martin, Indiana, enlisted December 1, 1863. He was in the 10th Cavalry Regiment, Company C. This unit became the 125th as the 10th was handed to an African American unit (you should read about them!). He mustered out on August 31, 1865, at Vicksburg, Mississippi. There is the Sultana, which is fascinating but a very long story so I will leave it off. Many of the Company died when the Sultana blew up in April of that year. John was not on the list and his papers say he survived the war, mustering out in August. 

Something new I found this time around was something I thought would help. I found the death cert for Rebecca Elizabeth Martin Beck. Here's the new part. 

John R. Martin. I have a middle initial. This will help, right? 

I have a census with a John R. in 1850 in Washington County, Indiana. He's 15 which puts his birth at 1835. Perfect. Birthplace is KY. 1860 says Indiana but that is often the case. His parents would be Lemuel (42) and Polly Martin (38). Best part is that in 10 years, 1860, he is 25 and a perfect match. Not set in stone yet, but STRONG.

Then this: John R. Martin married Caddie M. Hungate on February 25, 1869, in Washington County, Indiana, the same year Mary Ann remarried. Again, not in stone but STRONG.

I actually found something this time. It was very emotional. I did have to lie down. I'm still recovering today, but I think I will survive this time. I'll add sources when I'm sure and, of course, stronger.

(I wanted Comic Sans but Blogger doesn't have it. Am I going to have to leave this platform??)

WikiTree Wednesday - A New Thread

I think this is WikiTree Wednesday now. Maybe I need to stick with this one. I have added John S. Dye to my Hovis Family. Sarah Ann Hovis is the daughter of Henry and Sarah Hoke Hovis.  Sarah Ann is my third great Grandaunt. She married John S. Dye in 1865 in Indiana. Here they are at WikiTree:

• John S. Dye [Dye-3749]
• Sarah Ann Hovis [Hovis-417]
• Armina V. Dye [Dye-4278]
• James Albert Dye [Dye-4279]
• Henry Elmore Dye [Dye-4280]
• Louis Clarborn Dye [Dye-4281]
• William D. Dye [Dye-4282]

I'm still looking for children. I am certain that I have missed a couple. But the interesting thing about John is that on Ancestry I found his death cert. It lists his parents as James Dye and Sarah Fankbener.  (Crazy name, right? First for me! I have to say it sounds like something I would say when speaking angrily to another in front of children. Sigh. Okay, back to the story.) The only James Dye I have found in the right place and with a son named John S., born in 1839 is a James and Maria Dye, in Salem Ohio. A tree on Ancestry has Maria listed as Maria Guyton.  According to the tree they were married in 1833. Also, according to the tree, Maria died in 1875 and James married a Sarah Maring in 1877. Maring is a lonnnnng way from Fankbener.  No sources to check.  The informant on the death cert was Albert Dye, I have to assume it's James Albert Dye, his son. I have found 1850 and 1860 census records of this family. They are in Salem, Ohio. My John was born in Ohio. I don't know how he came to Indiana, but his family is listed in the 1870 census in Ohio, but John is gone by then.  My John married Sarah Hovis in 1865 in Indiana. He would have been around 25 at the time.  

So now I need to find the true parents. I'm hoping for a Fankbener quite frankly. I want that in my tree.

On another note, on Friday they cut down a tree right outside my window. Perfect tree, sat there for at least 40 years, maybe more. When I opened the blind this morning there were limbs and leaves everywhere. I slept through the night, so if there was a wind, I missed it. Nothing on the patio was bothered. Maybe a little wind came up and the other trees in their grief just let it go. I know I have mourned the loss myself. (I still have all my limbs, though.)

Uncle Don

 

This is my uncle, Donald Eugene Jaynes.  This is the last photo of him that was taken. It sat in my grandmother's living room until she died.  I have it now. He was only 16, a new driver, and a popular guy in his set. He was a good boy and a good son. He got tired one day and just never got better. They took him to the hospital, but the news was bad. He had leukemia. There was nothing that could be done at that time. My grandfather was told that if he stayed in the hospital, they would use Don as a guinea pig. A lab rat. They couldn't help Don, but they might learn something that would help someone else one day. It was 1938 so what could one expect. My grandfather and the doctor decided Don would go home but they would not tell my grandmother that he was dying. After all, she wouldn't be able to function. Instead, they gave her a list of things to make him feel better.  She worked hard to make him better. Then he died. She was devastated. She felt she hadn't done enough. Or worse, did something wrong. Life in that household was never the same after that.  My mother turned 3 just 9 days after he died.  She remembered that time, even though she was so young.  She remembered that they had gone someplace, and Don was laying with the covers to his neck. Everyone was talking quietly so she thought he was asleep. But he never came home. It was years before she could understand. Life had changed; it was never the same again. 

Donald Eugene Jaynes

September 17, 1921 - June 17, 1938

I have put his Funeral Register in a Google Photos Album and I am sharing it. Just click on his name above. I've gone over it and know of, or the families of all these people. It was 85 years ago. I am sure they are all gone now.  If you have or know of a family in Jackson County, Indiana, you might just recognize a name. 

 A lesson was reinforced here. If two men put their heads together and make decisions, nothing good will come of it. My grandmother never got to say her goodbyes. Also, ink and pens were messy and expensive, so most of the time it was pencil.

At WikiTree Jaynes-76